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laker1963:Thanks Alex, it makes perfect sense. Unfortunately it also makes it just about impossible to accurately choose future cigar decisions based on the information provided by the companies. This information tells me that it is even more important to get to know the style of certain blenders as this may be a more accurate way of choosing a new stick over deciding on one based on the information provided. Very interesting stuff Alex, thanks.
Alex Svenson: Just as an example in terms of integrity, the 10 or 20 true greats out there that I spoke of are talented enough to take a cigar from literally any factory, open it up and identify every leaf in the cigar. Region, seed, priming, proportion and sometimes even grower. that said, they never knock each other off out of a huge amount of respect, loyalty and integrity. They are each artists in their own right and while the appreciate the work of others, they never set out to knock something off.
jgibv: Alex Svenson: Just as an example in terms of integrity, the 10 or 20 true greats out there that I spoke of are talented enough to take a cigar from literally any factory, open it up and identify every leaf in the cigar. Region, seed, priming, proportion and sometimes even grower. that said, they never knock each other off out of a huge amount of respect, loyalty and integrity. They are each artists in their own right and while the appreciate the work of others, they never set out to knock something off. That is absolutely amazing. The fact that these blenders (albeit only a few) have so much knowledge and experience that they can identify so many details from the leaves is astounding..... Alex, my mind is blown.
BigT06: does Kelner musk come from the style of blending? the curing or fermentation? the tobacco itself? the environment it's aged in after rolling/before shipping?
kuzi16: BigT06: does Kelner musk come from the style of blending? the curing or fermentation? the tobacco itself? the environment it's aged in after rolling/before shipping? yes. have you ever done the Davidoff cigar tasting? that will demonstrate way better than i could even attempt to explain
kuzi16:what is even crazier is that i have seen it happen. I watched AJ Fernandez do it. we walked into the Fernandez factory after just finishing up at the Drew Estates Factory. Colin Ganely (of cigar journal) had the Ratzilla that Johnathan Drew handed us sticking up out of his pocket. AJ walks up to Colin, grabs the cigar out of his shirt pocket and begins to study it. he looks at Colin and says "Connecticut Oscuro. Good cigar" places it back in the pocket from where it came and he went about his business....there was no band on that cigar and he didnt know we just got out of DE.
BigT06: kuzi16: BigT06: does Kelner musk come from the style of blending? the curing or fermentation? the tobacco itself? the environment it's aged in after rolling/before shipping? yes. have you ever done the Davidoff cigar tasting? that will demonstrate way better than i could even attempt to explain brother, I've never smoked a Davidoff cigar... much less a tasting. lol. I have the Maduro you gave me and a Millennium that Isaac gave me... but I've yet to put fire to them. can you try to sum it up like this for us... the guys with a signature characteristic; is it more the process or the actual tobacco? I have my own theories... but I think we'd all rather hear yours. lol
kuzi16: BigT06: kuzi16: BigT06: does Kelner musk come from the style of blending? the curing or fermentation? the tobacco itself? the environment it's aged in after rolling/before shipping? yes. have you ever done the Davidoff cigar tasting? that will demonstrate way better than i could even attempt to explain brother, I've never smoked a Davidoff cigar... much less a tasting. lol. I have the Maduro you gave me and a Millennium that Isaac gave me... but I've yet to put fire to them. can you try to sum it up like this for us... the guys with a signature characteristic; is it more the process or the actual tobacco? I have my own theories... but I think we'd all rather hear yours. loli mean, its everything. you change an element and everything else changes. the reason why i asked if you had done the Davidoff tasting is because they hand you a stack of cigars and they walk you through them. each one embodies a different element of the last cigar and that cigar is one of the Davidoff line (i cant remember what one). once you smoke each one of the cigars you have a better understanding of what goes into it. the salt, the musk, the earth... its all there but separated out from each other.
kuzi16:find a Davidoff authorized dealer that is holding that specific event. they are kinda hard to come by.
BigT06: kuzi16:find a Davidoff authorized dealer that is holding that specific event. they are kinda hard to come by. There is an authorized dealer about an hour from me... I'm on their emailing list, and me and the owner have exchanged cigars several times, so hopefully I am in their good graces enough to be welcomed at such a cool event if they ever get to host one. Thanks for the head's up!